When will humans understand. We bears can be reasonable. We are open, to food negotiations!
Tyrone van leyen
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Tyrone van leyen
Ok that's it. No more more LSD in the park. I'm starting to feel like bear.
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wtbts are two faced liers!
by mattbetrayed inwhat i hate about the bros is there bare faced hypocrisy they preach to people look at the leaders in you faith,see how they conduct themselves.and on this base they try to get folkes to turn away from there chosen faith.but you dare question an elder or any wtbts teachings or the way they deal with "problems within the cong"you are kicked out or at best marked as a troublemaker.ok for them to highlight the faults in other faiths but no way must anyone highlight the evil in the witnesses!!!!!!!
!please what are your thoughts my bros and sisters of jwd.
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Tyrone van leyen
Well said, Was an Elder
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JamesThomas
by poppers inhas anyone heard from him lately?
he hasn't been on the board for a long time and i no longer have an email address for him that works.
if anyone has a current email address i'd appreciate a pm.
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Tyrone van leyen
I agree with Trevor. His tranquility and wisdom were sagelike, almost to the point of being tangible. I always did value wisdom over intellect, but I think he had both. I hope his words arn't lost.
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wtbts are two faced liers!
by mattbetrayed inwhat i hate about the bros is there bare faced hypocrisy they preach to people look at the leaders in you faith,see how they conduct themselves.and on this base they try to get folkes to turn away from there chosen faith.but you dare question an elder or any wtbts teachings or the way they deal with "problems within the cong"you are kicked out or at best marked as a troublemaker.ok for them to highlight the faults in other faiths but no way must anyone highlight the evil in the witnesses!!!!!!!
!please what are your thoughts my bros and sisters of jwd.
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Tyrone van leyen
This a pecking order mentality, started by a fat prick, Named Judge Ratherflawed. He was an amazing peice or work. He could drink all of Bethelites under the table and make rules that applied to everyone except for him. That even included having casual liasions with his fling Berta Peale. I have also read that he visited a strip bar in Paris. See any modern similarities in the congs. Of course you do.
He never really was a Judge. He only served once on the bench as a fill in. What this fat prick, with the big mouth and bullish behaviour did, was got rid of the system that Russel put in place. That's right folks. The elder arrangement used to be done by election and he took that power away from the congs. This was so that he could have more control to satisfy hi ever burgeoning ego and keep an eye on everyone with his network of rats while he did what he pleased.
What this really means is signifacnt. It gave those appointed as elders, a means of acting like judges over the congregations when they wern't really judges and didn't know the first thing about due process, or fairness or even hearing someone out. It means that they adopted the Fat asses personality and created a little boys club. It's kinda like a reward for kissing ass, for 20 or thirty years.
Ah yes! The personality cult of Rutherford. Hated and reviled by his own family, and the patteren keeps repeating over and over, because the structure can't be breached. TOTAL CONTROL and NO MERCY>
The extent of the whole process is so ugly, that is is contemptable to think that the entire org. is made up of an army of lawyers and has been for the last 130 years, but not a single person within the org. gets a fair trial, when they know dam well how to proceed with ligitmate trials.
What it really amounts to, is an excuse for purges and kangaroo courts, to hold onto power. This is quite evident if you look at the 200 year old Gezzers still running the funny farm.
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Muslims Influenced by WBTS
by cameo-d inscientific study of religion volume 9 number 4/winter1970.
several details of doctrine are too similar to be coincidental.
there is some evidence of direct contact between the two groups.
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Tyrone van leyen
Are you saying that my refined logic, has weighed so heavily on your mind, that you have turned into a green Egyptian? Sorry Cameo.
My advice on this one. Go to your nearest Shoppers Drug Mart. Ask for the cosmetics section. What you will be looking for, is the flesh tone foundations.
This will at least get you through in public areas until science can find a way to get the normal colour back in your face.
As for the culture, well, theirs nothing wrong with being Egytian. It's just that, today egyptians dress a little differently. But who knows maybe you'll be able to revive an old fashion. These things have a way of coming back in style you know.
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Muslims Influenced by WBTS
by cameo-d inscientific study of religion volume 9 number 4/winter1970.
several details of doctrine are too similar to be coincidental.
there is some evidence of direct contact between the two groups.
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Tyrone van leyen
Edited . I was going to show you examples all over Europe and the the rape and crime stats to go with it, but so long as you wear rose coloured glasses it won't matter. You should research it yourself
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Muslims Influenced by WBTS
by cameo-d inscientific study of religion volume 9 number 4/winter1970.
several details of doctrine are too similar to be coincidental.
there is some evidence of direct contact between the two groups.
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Tyrone van leyen
Well you see Cameo, I'm glad these efforts are being made by "our" culture, to bring a 7th century ideology, out of the stone age. Holland is a very liberal and pragmatic society. If this works(and I'd be suprised.) It will certainly meet with stiff opposition from Imams and hate preachers and would most certainly be a first in Europe. Holland is doing this, for their very survival by the way.
I think the Dutch Have it right, by trying to liberate the women of Islam, but they are going against 1400 years of absolute non-change and authorities which the men have long enjoyed.
But let me ask you this. Do you think the modern world and progress of the rest of the human race should be making concessions and regress to something non progressive.
Cameo, if you came from a cult, known as this witnesses, then you should know very well, that even a milder cult will make no concessions for anyone and never change unless forceis used. Common sense shows that the nature of cults do not bend to mainstream mentalities. This board is full of the broken bones of people who now gather together, with all their wisdom and knowledge to refute and give dignity to it's victims. Even then, it takes years before those victims can see a light at the end of the tunnel.
Holland was suprized. They took in many immigrants figuring, that those who were oppressed under Islam would enjoy the freedoms of Holland. But they most certainly did not. Have you not seen all the placards carried by Muslim protesters in a free countries that take them in. There is no appreciation. Freedom go to hell! We want danish blood! Prepare for the real Holocaust! Bomb Bomb Denmark. Death to America. What part of that do people not understand?
I sincerly beleive that these people can not be reasoned with. They have formed, no go police areas all over Europe setting cars and buildings on fire. Do you read the news or are you sleep walking into a nightmare like the rest of the world.
Do you think all these no go areas will embrace freedom. We are hated. DO YOU UNDERSTAND! These areas didn't come about by accident. They are all strategic areas that Islam sends Imams too to preach hate.
Multiculturalism has failed. Originally in 1973 deals were made with the Saudis, by the French becuse they needed the oil. Part of that agreement was to promote Islam and never say anything negative about it. The Media has to watch every word they say now because of this and the truth has been buried.
If you think this little move in Holland is going to work, your wrong. Geert Wilders and Hirsi Ali need bodygaurds 24/7 so that they don't get their friggin heads cut off or get knifed like Theo van Gogh.
I dare you to look at the problem straight in the eye. Go on the net and see the massive extent of this problem. Don't just pick up one article in a tiny country and say wow look at this.
It's like your picking up a bubble gum wrapper and tossing it in the bin and saying. Look what I did for the enviornment!
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Muslims Influenced by WBTS
by cameo-d inscientific study of religion volume 9 number 4/winter1970.
several details of doctrine are too similar to be coincidental.
there is some evidence of direct contact between the two groups.
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Tyrone van leyen
Well, you know my freind, perhaps you are looking for a grand unification theroy, that will tie all things together, as is sought for, in physics. To me, this is a noble but futile venture. Science deals with facts and provable data. Religion deals with faith, based on loose assertions and assumptions. Differing backgrounds and the lies of rewritten histories to the conquered, is the farthest from the truth you will ever get. You must rely on your gut, and raw instinct for truth, with no bias and with provable data. Regardless of whether you feel comfortable with the results or not.
In our society, thoughts that differ from the common, are frowned upon. This is a very lonely venture indeed. It is an uphill battle, because human nature, is designed to accept the path of least resistance. It is therfore imperative, that one constantly does a reality check on oneself, as affirmation for things that are not commomly accepted. Of course strange and uncommon veiws will be ostracized. That which is uncommon does not comform to societal norms, just as copernicus and Galileo discovered, regardless of the truth and impact to society.
Things that seemed outrageous 500 years ago are now commonplace. This is the dilema of anyone that dares to see things in a different manner. They are in fact, martyrs, that are ahead of their time.
My gut tells me, that the commonality you seek in religion, does not exist. This is because, each religion is dear to the beleiver, and an investment has been made. This means no compromise. The only answer to this, in my opinion, is the abolition of religion. It kills creativity and weighs down the soul. It has in subjection the freedom of exploration that the human spirit craves. All things must be seen through the prism of a beleif that has no grounds in the reality of life.
I do not discourage you from your venture however. You will see this for yourself. It will take it's course, if you dare to pioneer it further.
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Muslims Influenced by WBTS
by cameo-d inscientific study of religion volume 9 number 4/winter1970.
several details of doctrine are too similar to be coincidental.
there is some evidence of direct contact between the two groups.
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Tyrone van leyen
Well Cameo. You sure get around. It may well indeed. I have looked at many things on the net, and this is the first I've heard of it. I will check it out. Different cultures seems to have some kind of strange background in their early begingings especially in India. The book of Enoch seems to have similar references to strange beings but then again, even the bible does. In the book of Ezekial. You know what I'm talking about, of course. You are a smart cookie. Just remember. I don't mean to sound like a broken record, and I too, can run afoul , as you have seen, but navigation my freind! You are changing the topic of your own thread. No meaness or harm intended bud.